tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-52163092011-07-14T15:28:34.632-06:00the ramblings of an ecclesial dreamerEcclesial Dreamerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07915441358303679650noreply@blogger.comBlogger2151100tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5216309.post-107698471589901492004-02-16T19:25:00.000-07:002004-02-16T19:27:09.293-07:00

I think I mentioned before that I was interested in participating more in the special days throughout the year in the liturgical calendar. With Lent right around the corner I was reminded of some Catholic friends I grew up with. They would spend a lot of time trying to think of things that they could give up for Lent that would really not be too difficult. As kids this is a lot harder than it

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I have been re-reading Vincent J. Donovan's great book Christianity Rediscovered. I liked it a lot the first time I read it and I like it even more when I was preaching through some of it at my last church but now I absolutely love it! This book is powerful in several ways. For me it was good to read a "missional" book written from a Catholic perspective. Anyone ecclesial dreamer who hopes to

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click on picture to purchase from www.despair.com Quitters never win Winners never quit But those who never win and never quit are idiots. Last night as I struggled to sleep I was troubled with thoughts about Missio Dei. Others in our group may have a different view on what I am about to say as I can only speak for myself. Lately it has been very difficult for me to pick up our pulse. It is

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My friend let me borrow his copy of the Us Army Survival Manual a couple of years ago. I still have it. If he reads this post I am busted. Anyway, while I was at my former church I used portions from this book as illustrations in a sermon. Something reminded me of this the other day and I pulled it out and read it again. Now that I find myself once again in this strange place of trying to

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Special thanks toJonny Baker who always shares great stuff. He is pointing folks to this great post from Jonathan Finely. I hope everyone who reads my blog reads his post. Read it twice!! It's that good.

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Tonight while watching TV with Janell I heard the Wild Cherry song, Play That Funky Music, being played over and over again on the computer. When I went to check it out I discovered my daughter at the desk working on little crafts and singing the song as loud as she could. I loved it. That little girl knows how to wrap her dad around her finger. Play that funky music indeed.

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I finished Volf's book towards the end of last week and have been sitting with the thoughts all weekend. This book was really, really good. I am still amazed that people like this are not being heard by more people and I can't believe this is the first book of his I have read. I will definitely read more of his books. He ends the book well talking about the "catholicity" of the church. This

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Does anyone out there have any recommendations for a web host provider? Leave a comment or shoot me an email.

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Thanks to my fellow ecclesial Dreamer, Tre Cates for bringing this article to my attention. As I continue trying to find my way through these confusing times I found the lexicon alone worth the read.

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I realize I have not commented on Volf's book in a while. I have been trying to finish it so I can give it back to Scott. I have covered too much ground in the book since the last post on it to comment fully. I can say that this book just continues to get better the further you get into it. It is getting slightly more technical as well, but I think it is still pretty readable for those who

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I have been looking forward to Mel Gibson's film, The Passion of the Christ ever since I heard about it many months ago. I know many people who have already seen it and say it is a very powerful work of art. I have heard many say that it is so honest in its portrayal that it makes them uncomfortable. I have heard others say it is very important not to take young children due to the graphic

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Dennis Miller has a new show weeknights on CNBC. I was a huge fan of his old show on HBO but not sure yet about this new one. Seems to me like he is half-stepping but I have only seen it 2 times so far. Anyone have any opinions on the new show?

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There is a fairly new Emergent Group Blog initiated by Jason Clark. Fellow ecclesial dreamer Jason Smith gets the ball rolling...

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My twin sister was able to get me an older used laptop for one of the Backyard Missionaries who needed one. It was nothing fancy but it worked and the price was right. I shipped it off at the end of October via USPS. Being that it was an older laptop it would have cost more to ship it to Oz via FedEx than the laptop is probably worth so I though I would save a few bucks. I sent it the cheapest

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that is the title of the last chapter I read in Volf's book. He is continuing his argument that the church is an image of the Trinity and exploring how we relate to the church and each other and how our ecclesiology effects our soteriology, etc. He begins this chapter like this: "As is well knownm Friedrich Schleiermacher distinguished between two opposing forms of Christian communion.

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Did I say already that this book is incredible! I hesitate to post too many comments about this book because I will not do it justice. This should be required reading for all ecclesial dreamers. I should also state clearly that this book is designed to be a complete argument. It is probably not appropriate for me to pull out small portions of it because you really need to read the work in

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for an ecclesial dreamer that is good advice. If things go well for Dryject® of Colorado I may have a new day job in the near future. Too early to tell but this could be a good thing for me. At any rate, with the many changes going on at the Denver Department of Human Services it will be an interesting year vocationally for me.

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I am continuing to get a lot of great stuff from Volf's book, After Our Likeness: The Church As the Image of the Trinity I have finished the overviews of Ratzinger and Zizioulas' thoughts and am starting the beginning of Volf's argument. Remember, this book is about the Church as the image of the trinity and is dealing with relationships persons have with the church and each other (especially

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We got a surprise snowstorm yesterday so I am off to shovel some walks. Can't wait for spring to come.

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The Anapapist let me borrow Miroslav Volf's book, After Our Likeness: The Church As the Image of the Trinity and it is great. As the title indicates, Volf is exploring how the Church is an image of the trinity. Throughout the book he is interacting with a Catholic theologian (Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger) and an Orthodox Theologian (John D Zizioulas) as he explores the relationships of the church to

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I commented before on the book, Radical Orthodoxy: A New Theology. One of the best (definitely the most difficult) books I read last year. Now there is a good group blog going on. Check it out.

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I am hooked on NASA TV. I watched the coverage of the landing of Opportunity and it left me speechless. I can't help but think there are a thousand analogies full of spiritual meaning in this historic event but I can't get my pea-brain around it. I think of things like context. If I built a robot that took pictures and examined rocks it would be no big deal but if you launch it into space and

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I am linking to two new blogs that I have really been enjoying lately. First is Maggi Dawn. This is a great blog from an ecclesial dreamer who thinks with a refreshing perspective. Has got me thinking about a lot of things in new ways. Next is Fluid Faith. Jimmy is writting some very good autobiographical ecclesial dreaming stuff right now. I am resonating with his blog right now because it

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Here is one. Miroslav Volf is awesome!! I'm reading him for the first time and love it. More later...

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And you may ask yourself What is that beautiful house? And you may ask yourself Where does that highway go? And you may ask yourself Am I right?...Am I wrong? And you may tell yourself MY GOD!...WHAT HAVE I DONE? (courtesy, Talking Heads, Once in a lifetime) This year marks the 200th anniversary of the beginning of The Corps of Discovery’s great adventure. Ever since reading Stephen Ambrose’s

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This has been a rough week for me. Things in my day job are getting a little crazy and it feels like I am slowly becomming disconnected from some important things. Time to take a little time for reflection, refreshing and reconnecting.

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I am attempting to use a NEW RSS FEED . If anyone tries it out let me know how it works. Thanks!

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My friend Jason has been talking a lot about leadership development lately and he has my wheels spinning. In the center I find myself agreeing with him that the church does not do a good job of preparing leaders and opening up leadership positions to both genders and a diverse demographic of people. But there is something in this whole conversation that does not sit well with me that I am not

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Several people have got me hooked on rss readers. I finally got one installed tonight and I love it. But there are still a lot of blogs I like to read that do not have an rss feed (you know who you are!!!). Visit here and add an rss feed to your blog.

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I saw Big Fish Friday night with my family. I liked it but it wasn't quite what I was hoping for. I think this may be one where I would like the book a lot better. But perhaps it takes a great story-teller to recognize all of the subtle beauty in a film about story-tellers. Just so happens that I link to some writers who have the ability to write very well. I like to believe that if I read

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Thanks to the Anapapist for helping me discover my true self: "God will not suffer man to have the knowledge of things to come; for if he had prescience of his prosperity he would be careless; and understanding of his adversity he would be senseless." You are Augustine! You love to study tough issues and don't mind it if you lose sleep over them. Everyone loves you and wants to talk to you

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Frightened black family flees Pomo Church is in the newest issue of The Holy Observer. This would be even funnier if it were not so close to the truth in some cases.

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For anyone interested in IM, I am now using my email address for my (MSN) IM account. Feel free to add me to your lists if you want.

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Volume one is now online. I have not read it all but this is good stuff.

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Yesterday, Scott, Jason, Dwight and I had the great good fortune to have breakfast with Jason Clark as he passed through Colorado on his way to Jacob's Well in Kansas City. It was a great morning of encouragement, challenge, sharing stories and ecclesial dreams. It made me reflect a little bit on how thankful I am for Emergent the collective group of Christ followers that brought the 5 of us at

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I wrote about "waiting" this Advent season (by the way, anybody out there celebrate Epiphany??) and I am finding that waiting is very hard. Especially when you are waiting for good things. I am finding it difficult to wait to read this book and am anxiously looking forward to the San Diego Emergent Convention.

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Special thanks to Rudy Carrasco for pointing people to the outstanding message, Hearing the Gospel by Ray Aldred. This is one of the most powerful messages I have read in a very long time. I have read it several times already and it continues to break me each time. I hope and pray with all my heart that the community of faith I am part of will take this message seriously as we attempt

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I spent much of the holiday season sick but not all of it. I actually got to do some fun stuff and a little bit of celebrating. I had the opportunity to meet the gifted individual behind Dry Bones Dance. She informed me of a local organization called Prodigal Gatherings. I spent some time checking out the website and I am totally amazed that organizations like this can fly under the radar for

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I found this interesting article from Edward Farley (author of the book I have been recently posting about). In this article he has a different take on MOdernism in the Protestant traditions. He specifically explores the Presbyterian denomination but his thoughts are easily transferable to other mainline denominations as well. He presents some interesting insights on pluralism, science, etc.

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I am finding that I do not have the ability to keep up with life. Today I went from ecclesial dreaming, to work related issues, to a lunch with a friend who is having a rough time right now, to a hopeful discussion on the church for the next generation and back to work again. It feels like my being is pulled along at warp speed and my mind is crawling along at a snails pace. No doubt in about 10

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I finished Farley's book over the weekend. This book was so much better this time around becaase I was a little more familiar with some of his thoughts and where they were coming from. He ends the book really well with suggestions for reformulating the problem (the loss of "theological" education in the church and university) and suggesting some ways to improve things. There are a couple of

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Here is my favorite excerpt from Farley’s book so far: ”Why is it that the vast majority of Christian believers remain largely unexposed to Christian learning—to historical-critical studies of the Bible, to the content and structure of the great doctrines, to two thousand years of classic works on the Christian life, to the basic disciplines of theology, biblical languages, and Christian ethics?

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Jason Clark has made some very nice changes to his blog. If you have not checked out his stuff in a while I highly recommend it. Jason has some great thoughts on all things ecclesial and shares a plethora of outstanding resources. Whenever I need to feel challenged or inspired I turn to Jason's blog and have yet to be disappointed. Check it out when you have time to surf all of his side links

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Returning to Edward Farley's book, The Fragility of Knowledge has been helping me return to the land of the living much more than my earlier Dr. appointment, which was a complete waste of time. Re-reading this book has been outstanding and has me thinking some old thoughts in a fresh way. So far in this book he has challenged the structures of the education systems in and outside the church. He

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I am at work today but I am no where near 100%. I feel like I was run over by a truck. I am not sleeping well at all and when I do finally get to sleep I have strange dreams. I feel really fuzzy. I am trying to get in to my Doctor today. It seems like I have not been actively involved in the land of the living since Christmas, though there is ample evidence that I have been non-productive for

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I have been feeling very ill over the past few days. I spent all of Christmas day in bed with a bad fever and aches. Felt a little better on Friday but it hit me again on Saturday. I have been living on Motrin. In the midst of it all we are trying to tile our kitchen and dining room. Thank God for Curtis and Carl who have done about 99.9% of the work so far. I feel completely worthless.

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Apparently, "all welcome" does not mean what it used to ;-) I hope no Spanish speakers show up and ruin the 10:00 service at the Mount Carmel SDA church.

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I am listening to my favorite Christmas CD, Christmas is Coming - Rob Mathes and very special friends. I wish I could give this to everyone for Christmas. There is a great song called "William The Angel" that is very powerful. Below, is the chorus of another great song, "Waiting For Love To Be Born": "This is the season This is the time I see the face of a child and that face, it is mine I'm

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This article made the front page of our local paper, The Denver Post. It is about some of the "emerging" churches in the area. I like that some of these churches are getting some front page press because they are doing some good things. In my opinion, many of these churches are approaching things "methodologically" rather than theologically. As the article points out, many are typical Baptist

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I am beginning to notice this subtle shift in thinking that is affecting every aspect of my ecclesial dream. This shift is difficult to articulate in a meaningful way because it is vague and ambiguous. It is also counter-intuitive and that tempts me to try to explain it apologetically. For most of my life I have defined my spirituality through my community of faith. What I mean by that is

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My fellow ecclesial dreamer Scott Holden is finally blogging. Why not stop by and check in on the Anapapist every now and then!

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Last night I went to see Return of the King. I loved it. The whole Lord Of The Rings trilogy was an incredible film experience for me. Each movie was outstanding but individually there is something lacking. It is not until the Return of the King that the story is resolved in any meaningful way. But at the same time, Return Of The King does not really stand on its own either. If we don't

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More from Farley. Chapter two is titled The Corruption and Redemption of Knowledge and Chapter three is titled Specialty Fields and The University: "The whole restless, seeking life of the human being is driven by the insistence that the intolerable tragic dimension disappear and that there be protections that really and fully and absolutley protect. All good and functioning things become

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Thanks to my fellow Ecclesial Dreamer, Jason Smith, for turning me onto The Holy Observer". I have been a fan of the Onion for a long time but I had never heard of THO before. The article he sent me was pretty funny but there was a lot more once I went the the site. My favorite was the Top ten Christ Religious Christmas Gifts:

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The second through fourth chapters of this book are setting up the historical background for the current situation that makes Theological education in our churches and university problematic. I will not do it justice her but I will try to present the rough overview. The Enlightenment project, fails to recognize the correctives that are necessary to keep Knowledge grounded in the "real" and

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Was a great day! Two of the kids were home ill so I stayed home with them. Palyed numerous games of Go Fish, Old Maid and Uno. LAter I made a mediocre dinner for and got the dishes done. I actually felt like a good Dad and Husband today.

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Here are some more quotes from chapter one of Fragility of Knowledge: Theological Education in the Church and the University: concerning the Enlightenment ideal... "...knowledge is culturally embodied. It is shaped by the world views and social agendas of the society in which it occurs. It is carried by words and writtings that are laden with ambiguity, interpretation, and errancy. The words

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I have posted a picture of myself with my shaved head. I am still getting used to this.

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With all of my thoughts gravitating to ecclesial leadership lately I thought I would re-read some stuff I have not read in a while. I started with a great book by Edward Farley (click on his name for a great interview) titled, Fragility of Knowledge: Theological Education in the Church and the University. This book is amazing! Even more so when you realize that it was published in 1988 when

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I just found out that someone did a Yahoo search for "finding a nice woman" and was directed to my blog. That creeps me out. Hopefully whoever it was found what they were looking for.

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OK, I’ll admit it. I am not a life long fan of Johnny Cash. I was one of those who jumped on the fan bandwagon after hearing his cover of the song “Hurt”. I always knew he was a dominant force in the music scene but I did not follow that style of music so I was not aware of just how powerful a force he was. After hearing “Hurt” and listening to other musicians talk about him on the MTV

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A gracious response from Brian McLaren to the previously mentioned Chuck Colson article.

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By the way, if anyone is interested, the third day on the treadmill was much better. I may survive this after all.

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This has been a great day for reading some great stuff on blogs/bulletin boards. there is a good discusion taking place at the Emergent Village about Chuck Colson's recent Christianity Today article on Postmodernism. There are at least three great posts on Andrew Jones blog related to this discussion including this creative peice of writing. I wish I could write like that. Some people have the

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Trying to figure out just how to be faithful to the mission of God is a difficult process for me. On the one hand there is the understanding that I have come to accept that the current way of doing church is not working like it used to. This is not a gripe against the current model, just something I believe to be true. So I agree with many other ecclesial dreamers who are suggesting it is time

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Day two. I hope whoever said, "Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger" knew what he was talking about. I am in bad shape. After shoveling snow and running on the treadmill a may prefer death to being stronger. I think it helps that my wife and kids are making a little family competition out of the whole thing so I have some pressure to push through. On a related note, Jason Smith is

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I have several friends who tell me perception IS reality and there is no way around that. I understand this to a point but I have issues with it as well. Just one example... I think most people have this self perception that allows us to see ourselves the way we want to be seen. So when we look in the mirror we see the person we want to see. (In my case this me when I was 19 and I was

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Like it or not, the consumeristic side of the holiday season is upon us. Janell and I are busy making homemade gifts for friends and family. We have finished most of the shopping for our kids who will not get everything they want but should like the things they get. There are a lot of problems with the commercialization of this holiday but I like that everyone thinks of others at least to some

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It's time to realize not much will change with gender roles in our churches until we learn how to behave ourselves wherever we are. Christy articulates this much better than I ever could. Check out "to men yelling at me from their car windows" Part one and Part two.

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I am a little disappointed that I missed out on the international chat. I was looking forward to it simply because I am really interested on people's thoughts on leadership in a church context. My friend Dwight made some interesting comments from a perspective that he brings from a Quaker context. I like this openness that everyone in the meeting has the responsibility to listen to God and that

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Being a good non-denominational guy I have never followed a liturgical calendar but I have wanted to for a while. There is something deeply spiritual about allowing the rhythms of the year to connect to transcendent spiritual themes. I picked up a great book last year at the library about following a liturgical year and it reinforced this desire for me. So this year, as Advent arrives upon us

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Some great folks from down under will be hosting a chat session covering many issues including the role of leadership. For times in your local area go here. for more information about who is hosting and to find out how to join in go to Signposts and check out the side bar on the left. If I am free I just may eavesdrop on this one...

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Michelle posted the following link in a comment on the Backyard Missionary blog entry about leadership. This is a topic I really struggle with. I know that there is a need for people to "lead" in communities of faith. I know that there are some called to be pastors. But I am not convinced that we in the church really understand how Christ-followers are supposed to lead. The article Michelle

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THANKSGIVING Golden, brown turkey in the oven, Juice in the golden brown turkey, Bubbles popping in the oven, Bubbling, juicy, slimy turkey slipping Down my throat, Thanksgiving. Matthew Mills 11-27-03

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"Those who dream by day are cognizant of many things that escape those who dream only at night." Edgar Allan Poe (1809-1849); US writer, poet and critic.

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http://www.zero28.org/ is an interesting site co-founded by Gareth Higgins, author of the book I recommended earlier. As I said, his insights into the human condition are very good and you can get a glimpse at the web site. Well worth a visit.

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...Pursuing Truth and Preserving Community. Digging deeper into the debate going on at the ETS I found a great article by Glen C. Scorgie. It begins with a powerful question about Evangelicalism... "Some years ago I was approached by the editor of a Roman Catholic journal in Canada who wanted to inform his readers about what was to them a vague and peculiar stream of Protestantism known as

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I just came across this great article from Ivy Beckwith. Ivy spoke a few times at the 2003 Emergent Convention in San Diego and I was blown away with her ability to see the need for change in the way we teach our children about God. She has the education, the experience and most importantly the heart to want to help us ecclesial dreamers do a better job in this area. I will gaurantee that every

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I am putting some stuff together for a baby dedication next Friday night. I have some ideas that I want to implement and Doug Pagitt was kind enough to share some notes for what they do at Solomon’s Porch that will make this day very memorable. I am very excited about it because this will be the first time I get to do something like this as an ambassador of Missio Dei. It makes me feel like

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This debate will only get worse before it gets better. I said it before and I'll say it again, we have not heard the last on this issue.

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I have so many thoughts going at so many levels right now that I feel like my head is about to explode. Ideas are spilling into my head from conversations with friends, the film about Luther, a great book about Blaise Pascal, this insight from Andrew Hamilton, the HBO show Carnivale, the excellent article mentioned on Rudy Carasco’s blog, and conversations with my wife. Simply put, I am on

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It is time to admit that the Denver Broncos are simply not as good this year as I hoped they would be.

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While surfing the Carnivale web site I found this great interview with the show’s creator, Daniel Knauf. The title of the interview caught my attention. I have said in the past that my ecclesial dream is other people’s nightmare but now I am just wondering if it is simply a magnificent delusion. Daniel Knauf talks about getting the idea for Carnivale out of his head and into something

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Tonight I saw the film Luther. Even though I knew the story this movie was powerful. Joseph Fiennes played the part very well. I left totally in awe of the courage Luther had and sad that I do not think I have it in me. Only time will tell.

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Gareth Higgins’ How Movies Helped Save My Soul: Finding Spiritual Fingerprints in Culturally Significant Films does much more than review popular movies. If you are looking for a "thumbs-up, thumbs-down" type of resource you may want to look elsewhere. Instead, this book does a great job of training the readers how to find these spiritual fingerprints in films for themselves. Like other titles

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Here is a brief description of Carnivale from the HBO website: "1934. The Dust Bowl. The last great age of magic. In a time of titanic sandstorms, drought and pestilence - all signs of God's fury and harbingers of the Apocalypse - the final conflict between good and evil is about to begin. The battle will take place in the Heartland of an empire called America. And when it is over, man will

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..but how do you know which is which? Since I have adopted the revisionist ecclesial dreaming stance I have a little bit of flexibility to narrate this any way I choose. But I still struggle with this as it relates to Missio Dei. How do we know when Missio Dei has started? Usually church plants gear their start around the infamous "launch". To me this seems a little disingenous. I have been

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I have no insights into what it will take to "heal Iraq" so I wonder why when people go to my blog it initially pulls up a completely different blog about healing Iraq??? Once I hit the refresh button then my blog comes up. I don't know what causes this but it's kind of wierd. Maybe somebody is trying to tell me something...

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I like art as much as the next guy, I suppose, but I would not consider myself very knowledgebale about it. Art appreciation and the ability to understand the subtleties of brush strokes and such never really made a whole lot of sense to me. Part of the problem is that I very rarely really look at art. I have seen some classics in books but that doesn't really count. Who in their right mind

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last night I had dinner with a good friend. It had been a while since we talked and it was nice to catch up. We had a great conversation about things and we talked a lot about what I hope Missio Dei will become. He challenged me with some really good questions about the desire of human nature to control things and seek power. He talked about how there are so many churches that start really well

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Saw it today. I didn't like it. Maybe it's just me.

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I have believed for a while that spiritual nurture takes place best in ordinary relationships over a long period of time. Some have argued my use of the word "ordinary" but not at great lengths. Sometimes I will replace that word with "organic". In my mind these words in this context are interchangeable. My belief is that "organic, ordinary" relationships (spouses, children, parents, workmates

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The demotivator calendar is good every year. I think Potential is my favorite for 2004.

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This morning I had one of those moments of clarity--the kind that reveals very emphatically that you are not what you really think yourself to be. What I learned is that I am not a very good father. Don't get me wrong, I am not a bad father (at least I hope not), I'm just not very good. I want to be a good dad, I really do. But sometimes my idea of what that means has no grounding in reality.

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An interesting read by George F Will called The limits of Inclusiveness. Here is a quote: "This is not to say that homosexual behavior is inherently wrong, let alone that it is a great intrinsic evil like slavery. The analogy with the popular-sovereignty argument is intended to underscore the fact that although tolerance is often a virtue, it is never sufficient as a nation’s, or institution’s,

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I am really having a difficult time thinking about church stuff right now. It seems like all of the books, seminars and boot camps on church planting are about planning effectively. Get your core group together, write the vision statements, core values and mission. Assemble a leadership structure and plan how you are going to “launch” your corporate gatherings. Normally, all that stuff is

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You have to love this. Makes me want to send my daughter to a Catholic school.

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I just heard the news of Mike Yaconelli's death this morning. I had the joy of meeting Mike briefly San Diego at the Emergent Convention. I have followed him from a distance by reading his "back door" articles and his two recent books, Dangerous Wonder and Messy Spirituality were great. He was a great author and one that encouraged me as an ecclesial dreamer. I can't wait to see him again.

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tomorrow is All Hallow's Eve, also known as Halloween. It has a tradition of being a time of celebration for the following day, All Saint's Day. In the early days of Christianity, the faithful would celebrate the anniversary dates of martyrs that were remembered. Soon there were too many to celebrate them all so they would combine several into one date. Eventually, the church decided to simply

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“anyone who does not carry his cross and follow me cannot be my disciple.” (Luke 14:27) WHAT??? “I will show him how much he must suffer for my name.” (Acts 9:16) Run that by me one more time! Ok, so I know I am a little slow sometimes but I think I'm slowly starting to understand this. Being an ecclesial dreamer is hard. Trying to follow God to a place that is not yet seen goes against my

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